In defence of Joost

December 13, 2021

InsideTonic has written a great post on why Miro ain’t better than Joost.  The short of it goes like this:

Miro is open-source… Joost is not: Open-Source does not imply superiority of quality 100% of the time. The code is important but it’s not the most important thing. The most important thing is the content… and Joost got content… lot’s of it.

Miro has more channels than Joost: Miro has 2,600 channels and Joost only has 400… Yet Miro uses the term ‘channel’ to refer to specific programs. So in reality, the amount of content offered by Joost is not so far from that offered by Miro.

Miro hcontent vs Joost:  What Joost has recognized is that TV is a mass medium. Lofty ideals like being open-source don’t matter to the majority of viewers. They should, of course, but they don’t. Many viewers are happy to use proprietary software if they get to watch ‘Yoga 4 Dudes‘.

Usability of Miro vs Joost: Joost clearly win this one!

Distribution question: Miro need to buffer the whole thing before playing, Joost does not!  Joost win here.

Great post guys!

Gizmodo review Hulu, Joost and Miro

November 20, 2021

No matter what service you pick, you won’t find everything you want, thanks in part to corporate hang-ups and in part to the primitiveness of these early stages. They’re maddeningly incomplete, like a crappy library in a rural town. Joost is probably your best bet in terms of quantity and quality, with Miro working better if you want a ton of new programming but don’t care about corporate quality. And if you want Battlestar, well, the choice will be made for you.

Read the rest of the review on Gizmodo

For those interested in trends here is last month trends for all three of them:

joost trend nov 2007

What Joost and Miro can learn from each other

November 4, 2021

The folks over at the Participatory Culture Foundation are gearing up for the 1.0 release of their Miro video player, formerly known as Democracy, and you can practically hear them sharpening their knives. The web site is now featuring a comparison of Miro and Joost, and Joost doesn’t get much love: “Miro is open like the Internet. Joost works like a cable company with DRM.” Snap!

The aggressive tone of the site is understandable. Miro is an excellent product, but ever since they launched late last year, Joost has been getting all the attention. But is it really true that Joost is “a pretty dull product,” as the Miro blog laments? We’re not so certain about that. Sure, Joost has its shortcomings, but it also has some pretty innovative features. So why not learn from the competition? You can always start your knife fight later.

Here are a few things that Miro could learn from Joost:

Read the rest on NewTeeVee

Mozilla Invests $100,000 in Democracy TV

May 30, 2021

In their last board meeting, Mozilla decided to give a $100,000 grant to the non-profit Participatory Culture Foundation, the makers of the Democracy Player. PCF, like CC, aligns well with Mozilla and its manifesto. PCF has projects that are built partly on Mozilla’s technology.

Democracy Player, soon to be named Miro, is a cool desktop application that’s sort of a mashup of a video player, an RSS reader, an FTP & torrent client, and a channel guide. The experience is that video is regularly delivered to your desktop.

Democracy Player can automatically download videos from RSS-based “channels”, manage them and play them. It is based on XULRunner, and is free and open source software. Democracy Player is supported on Windows, Mac OS X, and GNU/Linux, and integrates an RSS aggregator, a BitTorrent client, and VLC media player (or Xine Media Player under GNU/Linux). Democracy Player is part of the Democracy TV Platform, which includes Broadcast Machine and Video Bomb.

[Via Mozilla]